Lieberman Defends Surge

by Sean Hackbarth

Despite the pounding he’s taken from the anti-war Left Sen. Joe Lieberman goes to the Wall Street Journal editorial page and defends the latest effort to pacify Baghdad:

But the fact is that we are in a different place in Iraq today from even just a month ago–with a new strategy, a new commander, and more troops on the ground. We are now in a stronger position to ensure basic security–and with that, we are in a stronger position to marginalize the extremists and strengthen the moderates; a stronger position to foster the economic activity that will drain the insurgency and militias of public support; and a stronger position to press the Iraqi government to make the tough decisions that everyone acknowledges are necessary for progress.

He then calls out anti-war Democrats who don’t have the guts to actually cut and run:

There is of course a direct and straightforward way that Congress could end the war, consistent with its authority under the Constitution: by cutting off funds. Yet this option is not being proposed. Critics of the war instead are planning to constrain and squeeze the current strategy and troops by a thousand cuts and conditions.

Among the specific ideas under consideration are to tangle up the deployment of requested reinforcements by imposing certain “readiness” standards, and to redraft the congressional authorization for the war, apparently in such a way that Congress will assume the role of commander in chief and dictate when, where and against whom U.S. troops can fight.

I understand the frustration, anger and exhaustion so many Americans feel about Iraq, the desire to throw up our hands and simply say, “Enough.” And I am painfully aware of the enormous toll of this war in human life, and of the infuriating mistakes that have been made in the war’s conduct.

But we must not make another terrible mistake now. Many of the worst errors in Iraq arose precisely because the Bush administration best-cased what would happen after Saddam was overthrown. Now many opponents of the war are making the very same best-case mistake–assuming we can pull back in the midst of a critical battle with impunity, even arguing that our retreat will reduce the terrorism and sectarian violence in Iraq.

What would a pull out from Iraq mean?

In fact, halting the current security operation at midpoint, as virtually all of the congressional proposals seek to do, would have devastating consequences. It would put thousands of American troops already deployed in the heart of Baghdad in even greater danger–forced to choose between trying to hold their position without the required reinforcements or, more likely, abandoning them outright. A precipitous pullout would leave a gaping security vacuum in its wake, which terrorists, insurgents, militias and Iran would rush to fill–probably resulting in a spiral of ethnic cleansing and slaughter on a scale as yet unseen in Iraq.

Lieberman makes a valiant attempt, but his words won’t convince the anti-war Left to back down. When netroots-powered Ned Lamont beat Lieberman last year in the Connecticut primary they tasted political blood. The Democrats’ Congressional victory only emboldened them to continue down their anti-war path. The only way to silence them is for the surge to actually be effective. For Iraq’s sake I hope it works.

“The Choice on Iraq

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23 Responses to “Lieberman Defends Surge”

1

I hope that Joe Lieberman eventually decides to jump like Jim Jeffords, but this time from Independant to Republican. He may be liberal on social issues, but not on foreign policy (which is the #1 issue in politics).

2

Among the specific ideas under consideration are to tangle up the deployment of requested reinforcements by imposing certain “readiness” standards

Um…yeah. Because making sure troops have enough armor for once during this godforsaken war is such a bad idea.

Why does Lieberman hate the troops?

3

halting the current security operation would put American troops in even greater danger – forced to choose between trying to hold their position without the required reinforcements or abandoning them outright.

No, it wouldn’t. In case you hadn’t noticed, the “surge” is already failing badly. Sunnis are shooting our helicopters out of the sky at the rate of two a week for the past month. There was an assassination attempt on an Iraqi VP, and car bombs are exploding all over Baghdad at an increased rate. Insurgents are now hijacking and exploding chemical tankers.

Part of removing funding for the failed surge is also removing troops who are in harm’s way. Bush’s reckless misjudgments have turned Iraq into a failed state. The Iraqis are determined to have their civil war. Since we can’t stop it, we should at least pull our troops out of the middle of it.

4


from the anti-war Left

So…the anti-war left is now over 60% of the us population? Now that the clear majority agree that this war was a mistake, why can’t we just refer to the people who support the was as the pro-war right?

5

“…A precipitous pullout would leave a gaping security vacuum in its wake, which terrorists, insurgents, militias and Iran would rush to fill–probably resulting in a spiral of ethnic cleansing and slaughter on a scale as yet unseen in Iraq…”
of course this is a prediction made by the same people whose predictions have been 180 degrees off from the beginning of this mis-adventure. it amazes me that so many people can be so wrong, for so long, and yet are still given a forum. what is it going to take for people to stop listening to these loons?

6

An Iraqi civil war will end with Iran and Syria taking over the country. Sounds like a good plan.

7

Sal,

As everyone knows, reality and facts have a distinct liberal bias. It’s more comfortable for the pro-war crowd to ignore that they’re now in the minority of public opinion and sentiment (because public opinion only matters when it lines up with yours).

Thus, we get brilliant ventures like the Conservapedia. (Man, i’m gonna get SO much milage out of that website!)

8

The tale of turncoat Joey Leiberman is sad and sadly, a little more the commonplace these days, as Joey, like all good electron shells, eventually manifests various unhinged sub-atomic particles, which are attracted to other complete but unstable molecules and other sundry mollusks, to the extent that decay occurs and the integrity of the original structure takes a turn for the worse, probably falling into itself – a useless pile of what was and a big disappointment to its mother as she held high hopes of it becoming something some day.

I guess what is needed is some inner peace, something that’s a little hard to find lately. Some one told me that Dr. Phil proclaimed, “The way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you’ve started and never finished.” Being the wise man that I am I avoid bubble-headed gerkins on principle, and even though he’s as good at handing out advise as my ass is to chewing gum, he is supposedly a doctor, so I took his astute words to heart. So, I looked around my house to see all the things I started and hadn’t finished, and before leaving the house this morning, I finished off a bottle of George Dickel, a bottle of Cherone Pinot Noir, a half of a bottle of Vicodin, the rest of a six pack of Beck’s, a package of Oreos, the remainder of a pepperoni pizza, the second hour of a pretty good porno, some Doritos and a bag of M & M’s. You have no idea how good I feel. Please pass this on to other people you feel might be in need of inner peace. But don’t give it to Joe Lieberman – He’s an asshole.

9

63% of Americans oppose the conflict in Iraq. My God! We have become a country of commies…

As someone mentioned above, it is time to start calling the supporters of the Iraq occupation the “pro-war right”. This should highlight their minority status.

10

Liberman…Wall St. Journal let’s see, where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, from last year when he genuflected to our PREVIOUS plan — before saying today that’s actually THIS one which is the perfect one.

Greenwald provided the following quotes:

Joe Lieberman, today: “previously there weren’t enough soldiers to hold key neighborhoods after they had been cleared of extremists and militias.”

Huh. Really? I wonder what he said about it just over a year ago?

Joe Lieberman, 2005: “The administration’s recent use of the banner ‘clear, hold, and build’ accurately describes the strategy as I saw it being implemented last week.”

So was he merely wrong last time? Or was he lying when he reported what he saw? Either way, he makes no mention of his previous trip this time (which was his 4th in a year and a half), which makes his current fluffer of an op-ed more than a smidge unreliable. Well that and the whole “He’s a lying shill for a failed administration”.

Tell you what. Want to convince me and the rest of the majority of Americans this is worth fighting for? Stop allowing the people who got it soooooooooooooooooooo wrong to keep making your arguments.

Seriously. Lieberman sounds like a Stalinist dupe here. It does the Hooray War effort no good at all.

11

Seems I can’t go anywhere on the internets these days without running into the wisdom of Carl Gordon.

12

Young Republicans, enlist in the U.S. Army today!!! Your country and your President need you to fill the ranks in Iraq. Show the world that the U.S. does have the ’stomach’ to sustain thousands if not tens of thousands of dead young Americans in order to succeed. Follow the example of George W. Bush and Richard Cheney. They are not afraid of a ‘long war’. You should be grateful to them for the chance to die a glorious death on the battlefield so that Iraqi’s do not invade America and battle us on our own front lawns. Enlist today.

13

Young Liberals,

I think Young Liberals need to join in this great cause to allow American Citizens to die in another bloody Sept. 11th slaughter by making sure our Military pulls out of the fight and essentially quits getting in the way of the Terrorists!

14

Ah, the old “fight them over there so we don’t fight them over here” meme. So funny. Does part of that strategy involve funding Al-Qaeda allies just because they’re anti-Hezbollah?

Aid and comfort to the enemy, indeed.

15

On the subject of aid and comfort from the enemy - when is the Republican party going to give back the $35,000 dollars they received in donations from indicted terror financier Abdul Tawala Ibn Ali Alishtari?

Put that together with DJ’s information above and it becomes increasingly clear exactly which party is in bed with terrorists. Why do Republicans hate America so much?

16

DJ,

I read the article and it doesn’t mention America funding Al Queda allies. I wonder if this is more along the lines of the fauxtography that was exposed on littlegreenfootballs.com regarding supposed American weapons in Iran.
This assertion doesn’t sound true to me because it doesn’t make any sense. I chalk it as another conspiracy theory for the left.

Alas the article is mind numbingly 5 pages worth of unsourced opinion.

17

“The United States has also given clandestine support to the Siniora government, according to the former senior intelligence official and the U.S. government consultant. “We are in a program to enhance the Sunni capability to resist Shiite influence, and we’re spreading the money around as much as we can,” the former senior intelligence official said. ”

DJ,

Was the above statement the statement you are referring to?

Well, your conspiracy theory falls flat when we read:

“We don’t have the ability to determine and get pay vouchers signed by the people we like and avoid the people we don’t like. It’s a very high-risk venture.”

There doesn’t seem to be any “intent” to put money in the hands of the wrong people here DJ.

18

Chet wrote,

“when is the Republican party going to give back the $35,000 dollars they received in donations from indicted terror financier Abdul Tawala Ibn Ali Alishtari?”

They will give it back when he’s found guilty of sending the $152000 for Night Vision Goggles for a terror camp. As it stands now, he was indicted only a week ago on Friday.

The money was sent to the Republicans starting years before anyone suspected him or indicted him of terror charges.

We shall wait and see what happens when/if he is found guilty. I hope they send the money back if he is found guilty, because that would be more than Clinton/Gore did regarding a Chinese terrorist.

19

They will give it back when he’s found guilty of sending the $152000 for Night Vision Goggles for a terror camp. As it stands now, he was indicted only a week ago on Friday.

There’s guys in Gitmo being held (indefinitely, natch) on less. I guess a few checks to the GOP merits some pretty special treatment. Funny how it takes the GOP $35,000 dollars before they find the 4th and 5th Amendments again. I guess Jose Padilla’s only crime was that he wasn’t a big Republican donor.

20

JT,

Whether or not there’s a specific “intent” to fund organizations sympathetic to Al-Qaeda isn’t the point (and to clarify, it may be more accurate to say they are A-Q “sympathizers” rather than outright “allies”). People in the Administration are willing to gamble that stray American dollars will end up in anti-American hands as long as those people also act as a buffer between Siniora and Hezbollah. That’s a huge gamble to take, and one that i think a lot of Americans would flip their shit over if they were seriously following all the ins and outs of the situation in the Middle East. Whether the government intends money to go to pro-Al-Qaeda forces is irrelevent. I seriously doubt anyone in the government intended for the levees in New Orleans to break, but they don’t get a pass just because they didn’t mean it.

During a conversation with me, the former Saudi diplomat accused Nasrallah of attempting “to hijack the state,” but he also objected to the Lebanese and Saudi sponsorship of Sunni jihadists in Lebanon. “Salafis are sick and hateful, and I’m very much against the idea of flirting with them,” he said. “They hate the Shiites, but they hate Americans more. If you try to outsmart them, they will outsmart us. It will be ugly.”

It’s like America is Archie, the Sunnis are Veronica, and the Shiites are Betty, only Betty and Veronica are much more willing to catfight in this scenario.

21

Oh yeah, and then there’s the whole issue of Bush apparently not keeping Congress informed of any of this.

The Bush Administration’s reliance on clandestine operations that have not been reported to Congress and its dealings with intermediaries with questionable agendas have recalled, for some in Washington, an earlier chapter in history. Two decades ago, the Reagan Administration attempted to fund the Nicaraguan contras illegally, with the help of secret arms sales to Iran. Saudi money was involved in what became known as the Iran-Contra scandal, and a few of the players back then—notably Prince Bandar and Elliott Abrams—are involved in today’s dealings.

Tonight, the role of Oliver North will be played by…?

22

President Bush has given money to the Palestinian Government before Hamas was elected into majority status. Afterwards, the money was pulled.

The Palestinian state, if we can call it that, needs the money initially to build itself an economy.

The situation in Lebanon with Hezbollah is a complicated situation where Hezbollah essentially has control over most services. They have a powerful militant force funded by Iran and Syria.

They are constantly spending money themselves to promote their agenda and garner new supporters.

So, what I understand from DJ, is that it is a bad thing that President Bush is trying to fund/promote those who are not sympathetic to Hezbollah?

Should we pull out the funding and the diplomatic operations in Lebanon, only to discover Hezbollah come to power in Lebanon through militant means?

America must do something to make sure Hezbollah doesn’t become the ruling class of Lebanon. As of right now, the government is controlled by Anti-Hezbollah, Anti-Syrian ideology. If they are removed from power by Hezbollah, then we will see a situation similar to IRAN where Lebanon will want to get on board the Nuclear Arms race.

I am willing to accept the “very high risk” that money is heading into the wrong hands, over doing nothing at all.

What is the alternative diplomatic strategy that the Democrats propose, now that Congress is being made aware of these Clandestine Missions through your Weblink’s article? Oh wait, maybe Congress (was) informed about these operations after all!

23

Ah, yes, the ol’ “well…well…do YOU have a better idea?” response.

I’m no foreign policy expert, dude, but i can tell when something is seriously fucked. Maybe the Democrats would do the same exact thing; hell, they probably would. At the end of the day, both parties are two sides of the same coin anyway, and America’s had their fingers meddling in Middle-Eastern affairs for so long that there’s probably no choice put to perpetuate this bullshit.

Meh, i’m feeling nihilistic today.

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