Ron Paul: A Libertarian Embarassment

by Sean Hackbarth

For a brief moment I thought about backing Rep. Ron Paul for President temporarily. With the Republican field wide open and it being months and months until the first primary I thought Paul’s strict constitutionalism would add to the GOP debate. A problem the Republicans had in last year’s election was they talked about smaller government yet didn’t act on their words. They spent like a man who thought he was dying. President Bush has the dubious honor of letting federal spending grow the fastest it has in 30 years. All of it enabled by the Republican Congress. The Republicans need someone like Paul who is willing to say, “No!” to new programs and has a good reason to back that up.

Where Paul fails miserably is on the Iraq War. He sounds out-there and outrageous, just like your typical Kossite. Ace found a video clip of Paul in the well of the House yapping about a possible new Gulf of Tonkin incident to set up a war with Iran. In the same speech conspiratorial Paul uses the CIA estimate that Iran will have a nuclear weapon in 10 years. He relies on the same institution that was wrong about the collapse of the Soviet Union, wrong about Iraq’s WMD stockpiles, and blind to the Sep. 11 attacks. That’s a lot of trust in a broken agency. The man isn’t serious about foreign policy. He is not capable of leading the U.S. through the Iraq War let alone a national security crisis.

Paul showed his really kooky when he told a radio host he would fight the North American Union, a crackpot, tinfoil idea that Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. are secretly merging into a superstate. Allah has gone and declared Paul “Bircheresque.”

The low point where the Congressman went off the deep end was when Paul described President Reagan’s “Tear down this wall!” speech as “pandering to his people.”

In the process of looking like a loon his message of limited government and constitutionalism gets lumped in with his kookiness. Because of his wacky views Paul is a lousy spokesman for libertarian ideas. The Anarchy Lew Rockwell crowd thinks the media simply ignores Paul because they fear him. The fact is Paul isn’t a contender for the nomination and he only has entertainment value by waiting to see what wacky thing he says next. Constitutional arguments, long lost from the thoughts of our leaders, will be removed from the political debate for another generation. All because a haze of conspiracy hazes the mind of its spokesman.

“Ron Paul Aligns With Rosie O’Donnell: US Government Will Phony Up New Gulf of Tonkin Incident To Contrive A War With Iran”

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13 Responses to “Ron Paul: A Libertarian Embarassment”

1

Yes, Ron Paul is really on the fringe in his opposition to the Iraq war — he’s so kooky, only 70% of the American people agree with him.

Arguments for individual liberty and smaller, Constitutional government are great, and Ron Paul is making them, and gaining attention for them.

Arguments that an undeclared war that costs hundreds of billions of dollars a year (not to mention the cost in human life) is somehow compatible with smaller government and individual liberty is what is truly kooky.

2

Mr. Hackbarth,

I’m curious; if you’re for the war, why aren’t you serving in the military? I don’t believe that’s a standard issue soul-patch.

It’s become obvious that most Neocons, self-labeled Libertarian or not, prefer sending our nation into wars rather than fighting in them.

3

The existence of one Gulf of Tonkin incident in our history certainly would indicate that the possibility of a second one wouldn’t be completely insane.

And while I think a small government ideal is certainly not at odds with a strong national defense, it would be at odds with a policy involving massive expenditure to rebuild another country and try to fashion institutions for it. It may be small-l libertarian enough to smash an enemy state when it attacks you – but it sure isn’t small-l libertarian to undertake a lengthy occupation, reconstruction and subsidization of that enemy state.

4

Yeah… he’s been a real disapointment.

5

“Pandering,” eh? What a shame. I was re-reading Reagan’s Brandenburg Gate speech not more than five days ago and it is absolutely beautiful. The greater shame is that Reagan so powerfully emphasized that our strength springs directly from our liberty.

It’s true that most people remember that speech for the thrill of the challenge Reagan issued, but the power of that one line tends to obscure the power of the rest of the speech. If you haven’t read or viewed it recently, go do so now.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j9hf

I might still vote for Paul, but ad-hominem trashing of Reagan is no way to persuade anyone in the GOP of the merits of your positions.

6

Paul is on the fringe for believing his President would create an incident to go to war with Iran. He’s on the fringe for thinking the U.S., Canada, and Mexico are in cahoots to merge. Those kooky ideas allow people to easily reject his advocacy of the gold standard and constitutionalism.

7

Paul is on the fringe for believing his President would create an incident to go to war with Iran.

Why do i get the feeling you wouldn’t dismiss such a thought if it were a Democrat in office?

Fluffy’s got a great point when s/he says: “The existence of one Gulf of Tonkin incident in our history certainly would indicate that the possibility of a second one wouldn’t be completely insane.” Those who ignore history…

8

On the North American Union: It’s not as kooky as you think. The European Union arose out of the European Economic Community, which arose out of the European Coal and Steel Community. So finding parallels between NAFTA and the EEC and thusly being concerned that a similar track is being taken with regards to the EEC’s transformation into the EU is not that ridiculous. Most Americans, unfortunately, don’t know much about the EU so absent knowledge about the EU’s history the viewpoint that a NAU is coming does seem a bit crackpot.

Foreign Policy: A non-interventionist foreign policy does seem like the best approach in terms of reducing the size of government and protecting American interests. The man is right about blowback; people like Osama utilize past American foreign policy actions as propaganda tools. Osama himself may hate us because we’re free, which is where I disagree with Ron Paul; he seems focused that on the policy issue soley, but he did utilize US actions in the Middle East to drum up political capital. An American foreign policy that does not entail being the world’s policeman does not seem like a bad idea; it does not serve our interests to try and solve every problem in the world. Iraq does have to be sorted out before we leave, so I do disagree with Ron Paul’s immediate withdrawal proposal, but after that we should not take it upon ourselves to solve every crisis facing the world. In regards to Iran, boxing them into a corner over the nuclear issue will only serve to undermine those in dissent against the current regime. That and sanctions would only serve to unify the people behind their leader, and move attention away from the problems in Iran. We need to seriously rethink our policy with Iran if we want the region to be secure. Saber rattling and a potential war do not seem like the best options.

Regarding Reagan’s speech: The whole point of a political speech is to pander to a particular moment, crowd, place in time, and/or for posterity. It’s in the nature of political speeches, but it was rude and unnecessary for Ron Paul to point this out. Still, enough with this Reagan adoration. The man was a decent enough president, but he did make quite a few mistakes and certainly wasn’t a saint.

9

[...] Andrew Sullivan and Michael van der Galiën find Paul staying in the race as good for philosophical diversity. I, on the other hand, see Paul’s “blame the victim” attitude along with being sympathetic towards Sep. 11 conspiracists as damaging to his brand of libertarianism. The longer Paul stays in the race saying kooky things the more mainstream conservatives will ignore everything his says, both the good and bad. [...]

10

I appreciate the fact that you — unlike many other writers — discuss RP’s actual positions on several matters here, rather than just putting words in his mouth and calling him names.

However, “US Government Will Phony Up New Gulf of Tonkin Incident” is very inaccurate. RP did not say X *will occur, but that he was concerned it *might. Also that he hoped he was wrong. This is a very measured way of describing the possibility.

If you don’t think there is any such possibility, that’s your opinion. But i think the fact that X *has *already occurred in our history really undermines any statement that X is not possible.

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[...] One of the only half-decent Republican candidates is Rep. Ron Paul? He’s a libertarian who doesn’t understand the current state of the world, unlike Randy Barnett. Paul lives in his conspiratorial world waiting for another Gulf of Tonkin incident. Paul’s a man who thinks Reagan’s “Tear down this wall” speech was “pandering to his people.” Yet he’s somehow better than a 16-year governor of Wisconsin or a long-time member of Congress who has worked on national security issues? Paul is an embarassment to the legitimate libertarian ideas I and Andrew Sullivan would love to see enacted. [...]

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[...] In May I wrote, In the process of looking like a loon his message of limited government and constitutionalism gets lumped in with his kookiness. Because of his wacky views Paul is a lousy spokesman for libertarian ideas. The Anarchy Lew Rockwell crowd thinks the media simply ignores Paul because they fear him. The fact is Paul isn’t a contender for the nomination and he only has entertainment value by waiting to see what wacky thing he says next. Constitutional arguments, long lost from the thoughts of our leaders, will be removed from the political debate for another generation. All because a haze of conspiracy hazes the mind of its spokesman. [...]

13

Ron Paull detractors and haters are simply delusional or have a twisted mind. And this Sean H. guy sounds like he has no idea whats really going on.

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