Obama, Clinton Target Super Delegates

by Sean Hackbarth

The conventional wisdom was the the Republican Party was so divided that there was a chance to witness a brokered convention, or at least see some hard-slogging delegate trench warfare. After a string of victories Sen. John McCain is close to sealing the nomination up.

The Democratic side is where the real action is. After Super Tuesday Sen. Clinton had a slight lead, but after a string of caucuses and primaries the last few days Sen. Obama now has a delegate lead. That lead could stretch with the “Potomac Primaries” (Virginia, Maryland, and Washington, D.C.) tomorrow.

Whoever wins those contests will still be in a very close race for the Democratic nomination. That’s where the super delegates become all-important.

The Huffington Post is making itself useful for once with two contrast pieces on this unique element to how the Democrats pick a nominee. Ari Emanuel, Rep. Rahm Emanuel’s brother takes the condescending route by writing,

I gave up letting my brother dictate my life since he determined whether he got the top or bottom bunk in our bedroom back in Chicago.

Ari brings up the boogie man that is Florida 2000 and compares the current situation to that one. Fluff and scare tactics: typical Democratic communications strategies.

What was interesting was Ari demanding no “shenanigans regarding delegates from Michigan and Florida.” That’s because “The party and the candidates all agreed that the delegates coming out of those states would not be seated. Unringing that bell after the fact and by fiat would be an outrage.” Yet the party and the candidates all knew about the role of the super delegates. Why wouldn’t “unringing that bell” be as much of an outrage?

Add inconsistent logic to the list of Ari Emanuel’s persuasion skills.

Donnie Fowler, Don Fowler’s son, (gee, yesterday must have been Nepotism Day on The Huffington Post) also doesn’t want a super delegate relative dictating who the Democratic nominee will be. Yet he isn’t worried a (non-tobacco) smoke-filled room of insiders will impose its will on the rest of the party. Outside of the elected Congressmen and Governors the super delegates are die-hard party activists. Fowler notes these same people made Howard Dean the DNC chairman. That surely shows these people are establishment figures.

Who is a typical non-elected super delegate? They’re someone like Marquette University student Jason Rae who hasn’t ever voted in a Presidential race, but gets calls from Bill Clinton and Sen. John Kerry.

Bill called last Friday, just as Rae was headed to dinner with friends, hoping he’d back Hillary. When John called, suggesting Obama, Rae was driving to the grocery store with a friend.

“I said, ‘Hi, Senator Kerry, how are you?’ ” said Rae, noting his friend “looked at me, like, ‘Are you for real?’ ”

Yes. And for real when former (and possibly future) first daughter Chelsea called. And former Secretary of State Madeline Albright. Both were backing Clinton.

“It’s not a huge deal on campus,” said Rae, active in student government. “I’m just a normal student like everyone else. In my private life, I’m a super delegate.”

If the Obama-Clinton race stays close Rae will want to think about turning his phone off most of the time and letting the voice mail do all the work. He could get very popular.

After all the Democratic contests Patrick Ruffini projects Obama with a narrow delegate lead no matter if the Michigan and Florida delegations are counted. It means both campaigns are in the hard slog for unexpected victories to create momentum. Neither one of these candidates wants to deal with a nomination decided by super delegates. Although neither would deny themselves the nomination if gotten in that manner.

UPDATE: Yesterday morning Justin Rae had breakfast with Chelsea Clinton. He should be getting more attention as Wisconsin holds its primary 02.19.

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12 Responses to “Obama, Clinton Target Super Delegates”

1

Why wouldn’t “unringing that bell” be as much of an outrage?

There’s a simple reason why counting the Michigan and Florida delegates at this point would be a load of crap:

When the party decided to strip those states of their seated delegates (and we can debate the boneheadedness of that move separately), all the candidates agreed to play by party rules and have their names removed from the ballot…except Hillary. Michigan basically had Hillary and “undecided” on their ballot. Had the delegates not been stripped from Michigan, who knows who would have won? Maybe Hillary, sure, but since the Democrats proportionally divide their delegates, who knows how many Obama would have gotten? Or Edwards? Who knows how many voters stayed home because A) their candidate of choice was off the ballot or B) they thought their vote wouldn’t count anyway because of the delegate situation? Too many ifs. The rules were set before the primary; to go back and change them now would be unfair to the voters of Michigan, to say nothing of Obama.

The super delegate thing is weird, for sure, but everyone knew the rules with them right off the bat–they vote for whoever they want and can change their mind up until the convention. Wacky it may be, but at least the rules didn’t change midstream.

2

DJ, maybe I confused readers but allowing MI and FL to seat delegates at the convention would be changing the rules. If I were a Democrat I would be upset. But the concept of super delegates is also part of the current rules.

To sum up: not seating MI and FL delegations and letting the super delegates do their thing is the most fair process.

3

Add inconsistent logic to the list of Ari Emanuel’s persuasion skills.

Or yours. What the fuck are you even talking about?

4

Sean - You should take an in-depth look at HRC’s key campaign staff in Wisconsin. IMO, it would provide you material for a very interesting blog post or two.

5

The issue of super delegates and the democratic party is unconscionable. Currently Obama is ahead in the popular vote and behind in the delegate vote. We can not have 800 party insiders decide the primaries for us! I have created a protest page here

http://www.popularprimaryvotenow.com

If you think this is an issue please add a comment to the protest page of the website. I will print out all the comments and give them to the Democratic party.

6

Ah, i see where you’re coming from now, Sean.

For the record, i think the super delegate thing is completely wonked. The idea of members of the Democratic establishment possibly being able to decide the candidate instead of the voters leaves a bad taste in my mouth. But as we agree, them’s was the rules at the beginning; they can’t be changed mid-campaign (but if they do away with super delegates for 2012 i won’t complain).

7

Just wondering if ya’all think the Clinton SS will _allow_ an Obama win.

Of interest to note, the ‘ghosh’ post hints of a Dem setup which, with current results, sounds eerily similar to Electoral College possibilities. And yet, was it not they who shrieked and moaned about the EC?

8

Oh, HRC will go down fighting until the end, but she won’t be able to “allow” or “not allow” an Obama win. She may end up poisoning the water so badly to make it difficult for him in the general, should she lose in the primary, but the way this baby is trending, she could hold all her supers, seat Michigan and Florida - and still lose.

As for ghosh, I have to laugh…the system’s just fine until their candidate is losing, and then the system MUST be fixed!! And now!

9

I love how you guys have extrapolated one post by one person into some phantom “they.” Very telling.

I won’t be visiting that website that person posted. As i said, changing the rules mid-stream is dumb.

10

I think you might be misunderestimating the reach of the Clinton Machine, Chancellor. With untold depth and breadth and cult-like loyalty, I’ve no doubt it will be brought to full bear upon Obama if/when need be.

Obama has no such underpinnings. How will/can he respond to the onslaught? He has but one weapon to wield (has done so already). Will it suffice?

To wit: The First Black Presidential Candidate will have to fend off unscrupulous underhanded attacks from the company of the First Black President.

Oh, how I bristle with anticipation of the coming spectacle!

(Considering the whole sorry affair, I gotta have SOMEthing to look forward to, eh?)

To DJ: “They” are not phantom at all, and you should visit the site… Its rigged, RIGGED I TELL YOU!!

11

MjM - I can safely say that I wouldn’t dream of underestimating the reach of the Clinton political machine. I happen to know some of their players here in Wisconsin very, very well.

IMO, they can poison the well pretty badly. But if they can’t win in Wisconsin, there’s no way, no matter how much slime they wallow in, that they’ll stop Obama’s momentum until the end. For the record, I hope I’m wrong. I’d love to see HRC win, for any number of reasons.

DJ - I wasn’t implying you, or even liberals in general in my “their” statement; just those that think like Ghosh does. Even though we disagree on a number of political issues, I respect your posts a great deal.

12

I’d love to see HRC win, for any number of reasons.

Heh, i bet you would. Hell, if she gets nominated, I might vote McCain!

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