Harry Reid Confused by “Voluntary” Tax

by Sean Hackbarth

Harry Reid

The saying goes: “Only two things are certain: death and taxes.” With April 15 upon us in a few weeks it’s hard to believe paying taxes is voluntary. Yet, that’s what Sen. Harry Reid tried to tell Jan Helfeld.

Reid is confused by what he means by “voluntary.” Paying income taxes isn’t voluntary. If we earn income we have to pay tax. Now, the U.S. system has what’s called “voluntary compliance.” Prof. Jonathan Siegel describes it:

So what does the IRS mean when it says it relies on “voluntary compliance”? It is referring to the primary method by which it enforces the (mandatory) duty to pay taxes. The IRS recognizes that this is a huge country and there are hundreds of millions of people who have a duty to pay taxes. The IRS can’t follow each of us around personally and force us to pay. The system can function only if most people voluntarily comply with their duty to pay. If everyone in the country simultaneously stopped complying with the tax laws, the IRS would be helpless. It doesn’t have the resources to bring 200 million tax prosecutions. So the primary method of tax enforcement used in this country is the fact that most people voluntarily go ahead and comply with their mandatory duty to pay their taxes.

But make no mistake about it: the duty to pay is mandatory. If the primary method of enforcement of that duty (voluntary compliance) fails for a particular person, the government hauls out the secondary method of enforcement: a tax prosecution. It can go after the nonpayer in a civil action, or seize assets of the nonpayer, or bring a criminal case that can land the nonpayer in prison.

“Is Taxation Voluntary?” [via Betsy’s Page]

[picture via swaters]

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4 Responses to “Harry Reid Confused by “Voluntary” Tax”

1

Reid is not confused on these points. He made exactly the distinctions you quote above, in his original statement.

He did not use the term “voluntary compliance” - he simply said “the system” is voluntary - but he explained the point clearly and accurately. He said explicitly that it is not voluntary to pay taxes, but that the method of collection - through individually-prepared tax returns and tax payments - is voluntary, which is exactly what is meant by that term in tax-policy usage. Those are the same points made in the quote you give, so I hardly see in what way you think he was wrong.

If your complaint is that he did not work the word “compliance” into it, that seems like you’re stretching pretty hard to find something to object to. It’s obvious he knows perfectly well how the system works - he described it accurately, and the only confusion evident on the video was that of the questioner.

2

Kevin, Reid talked in wonkeese. When most people think something is voluntary they have an option. That’s not the case and he failed to communicate that.

3

Did you really think Reid was claiming that paying taxes was optional? Did you believe he was somehow trying to hoodwink people into thinking that? You must be awfully easily confused if you’re that willing to believe claims that (a) everybody knows are not true, and (b) the speaker wasn’t making.

Reid was replying to the questioner’s tax-loon whining about “coercive” confiscation of taxes by pointing out that the US tax system is actually among the least coercive in the world. He is right about that, and he was right in his description of how the US system works, and he used the correct and accepted terminology in so describing it. The rest is your problem.

4

Thank you for your interest and promotion of my Harry Reid interview. If you liked that one, wait until you see my interview with Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi, Gov. Bill Richardson, Congressman Pete Stark, former CIA Director James Woolsey, ABC News George Stephanopoulos, Sen. Joe Biden and many others at JanHelfeld.com or You tube/Jan Helfeld. Please review them and let me and others know what you think.

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