The American Mind

Oh Sean, this is a stretch. I had more faith in you.

It is definitely a stretch. Obama is in this for Obama. He did use the radical left in Chicago to get him to the first phase of his life goal: become POTUS. From the time he got to the US senate, he’s being on his own.

He is a member of The Hamilton Project and has stated that “i love the market”. That hardly qualifies him for a socialist. I will direct you to the interview The Wall Street Journal did to him on June 17, 2008 and you tell me if his comments there qualify him as a socialist or as a capitalist: reducing corporate taxes, no taxation for “start up”, which is another way for every corporation to get a freeby by starting new “start ups”. His comments there were consistent with his speech on the inauguration day of The Hamilton Project. In WSJ: “If, as some talk about, we’ve got a winner-take-all economy…then our tax policies can help cushion some of the blow through providing health care. So if people lose their jobs they’re not losing their health care as well. THAT ACTUALLY MAKES A MORE FLEXIBLE WORK FORCE THAT MAKES WORKERS MORE MOBILE AND LESS RESISTANT TO CHANGE.”

That’s right, Sean, Obama is a socialist. I have the feeling you don’t know what is the meaning of “socialist ideology”. What do you think the line “less resistant to change” means?

Obama is accused by both ends of the political spectrum: he is a commie and he is a capitalist sell out. Both sides are correct and both sides can present his voting record as proof. The truth is: Obama has a deep personality disorder, egomania. He has managed to fool Americans. But make no mistake, Obama is not a capitalist nor a commie. He is both. That’s why everybody is confused about him. But he’s no dumb ass. He knows that the only ones that can open that white door for him are the big corporations. Funny that Obama’s robots believe he is the mole, not the communist mole, but the “liberal” mole. I have read how they think that once he is in the WH he will turn around and, magically, show his “true” people’s right interest.

Boy, America is up for a very rude awakening if His Highness wins the presidency.

I will kindly invite you to read by comments in my blog, The Obama nightmare
http://theobamanightmare.wordpress.com

I’m not a sophisticated blogger, so forgive my blog’s errors. I’m working on them.

WC sez >>> “The truth is: Obama has a deep personality disorder, egomania. ”

Not to burst yer bubble there, WC, but you aren’t the first to have recognized this:

“Americans are beginning to notice Obama’s elevated opinion of himself. There’s nothing new about narcissism in politics. Every senator looks in the mirror and sees a president. Nonetheless, has there ever been a presidential nominee with a wider gap between his estimation of himself and the sum total of his lifetime achievements?

Obama is a three-year senator without a single important legislative achievement to his name, a former Illinois state senator who voted “present” nearly 130 times. As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself.” - Charles Krauthammer

(The last is such an in-a-nutshell great line!)

WC continues>>> “Both sides are correct and both sides can present his voting record as proof.”

Not sure how that conclusion can be drawn given your (and Krauthammer’s) accurate statements noted above.

In his three (count’em, a whole THREE,… but only two if’n you count his absenteeism) years in the Senate Obama has a “lifetime” composite Liberal Voting record of 88.0 according to the National Journal. His 95.5 point #1 ranking in ‘07 caused by a jump of 10 points in his annual score is surely evidence of a political strategy hatched for a Democrat primary run.

Secondly, his IL voting record is a case study of political party-line same-ism and personal expediency. Whether directed (by IL Demo-party hierarchy) to stall budgetary items or in conspiracy with outside entities (Planned Parenthood) so as not to alienate moderate-to-conservative districts, his 130 “present” votes shows he would do/say what ever got him along in Illinois leftist power structure.

IOW, one can indeed cite his voting record as an insightful weather vane. A rusty, stuck-in-position one, surely, for he is most certainly a leftist who is able to bend - but does not turn - in the face of strong winds for the expediency he needs to get along.

I read your article. Your seem to equate his blatant pandering as proof he will side up to Big Biz. To the contrary, I see his joining THP as the very same thing as his joining Rev. (sic) Wright, and when the time comes he will simply throw Big Biz under the bus, too.

Of that I have no doubt.

See, the problem is that conservatives continue to think the best of people, and they get sucked in by smoothies like Obamamama all the time, only to be cut off at the knees. Many are like those blow-up bop bags - punch it and it goes down only to return upright ready for another shot.

“Thank-you, sir! May I have another!?!”

It’s quite frustrating (see: Newt Gingrich schmoozing with Nancy Pelosi).

You are correct when you say Oba-wan is no dummy. However, I think you are wrong about his kissing up to Big Biz.

For, using Big Biz as a means to institute socialized health care simply proves that Obammama is indeed a socialist.

btw, Murdoch courted the Clintons, too.

Tell me, MjM, do you think that Obama’s vote in the US senate against a proposal capping the interest rate credit card companies can charge to no more than 30% constitute a “liberal” vote? He voted against democrats but for republicans for a bill designed and drafted by credit card companies.

He also voted with Republicans for a bill for “Class Action Reform” that shut down state courts as a venue to hear many class action lawsuits.

In Illinois he voted with Republicans to limit non-economic damages.

In November he voted against a bill that would have reformed the Mining Law of 1872 which would force mine owners to pay a small fee for mining rights so that tax payer could reap part of the royalties. One of his advisers at the time was a lobbyist employed by mining companies.

He voted to confirm Condoleezza Rice, Michael Chertoff, John “Death Squad” Negroponte…

He voted for restriction of habeas corpus in S1042 Defense Authorization.

There are so many bills he passed or rejected that were drafted by conservatives and big businesses, as well as bills that can be deemed “liberal”. It’s not that he is a weather vane,he is just a well calculating politician who considers himself a conservative.

With regards to Obambi’s ego, well, it’s a known factor for those of us who don’t read Charles Krauthammer. Every article since before 2007 with interviews of Obambi’s friends point, in a very positive tone, to his big ego. And you don’t have to trust any of those people. Go to the primary source, Obama himself:

“Obama says, there is “that ego-driven ambition that I want to be [in italics] somebody, I want to be in front of the microphone, I want to be in front of the TV, I want to be the most important guy on the committee, I want it to be my bill.” Asked at fund-raisers whether the new role he’s assumed is taking a toll on him, Obama waves it off: “Nah, I’m a thoroughbred.”
[www.rollingstone.com the radical roots of barack obama]

Your response to my comment only confirm my point. People are thoroughly confused, or rather, equivocated about on which side Obama stands. You can present his voting record as proof of your position, and the other side will be able to do the same thing.

And that comment you made: “I see his joining THP as the very same thing as his joining Rev. (sic) Wright, and when the time comes he will simply throw Big Biz under the bus, too.”, it’s exactly what I have being talking about.

I mentioned peoples “hope” that Hussain is just “pretending” to be for business and will turn around and say “surpriiise, I’m really a socialist”. He discarded the Single Payer Health Plan he initially supported. Read the interview by the Wall Street Journal, June 17, 2008 “BO on Economics: ‘We’re Going Through a Big Shift’. Or his speech at THP inauguration.

Keep on dreaming. If you which Obama is really a conservative, you are one of those who will not be disappointed. Read all those interviews he had given to newspapers. You will see a BO very different from what he shows in his fiction books. As he said in “Dreams…”, he doesn’t believe in ideologies.

Don’t be afraid, BO is no socialist, he is BO.

I will be posting on my blog my latest findings about BO’s tendencies to become a charismatic leader a la Mussolini. BO is a threat to ALL Americans. I think he’s a snake waiting to bite us in the ankle.

>>>Tell me, MjM, do you think that Obama’s vote in the US senate against a proposal capping the interest rate credit card companies can charge to no more than 30% constitute a “liberal” vote?

Indeed. First Year Frosh Oba-wan voted against this cap not for the reasons you state, but rather because he considered the cap too high. Would you consider Paul Sarbanes(D-Md.), the senior Democrat on the banking committee at the time, a conservative because he, like Obama, voted “Nay”?

>>He also voted with Republicans for a bill for “Class Action Reform”

After repeatedly attempting to gut the bill by amendment - and failing - Obama and 18 other Demos voted for CAFA. This is hardly proof of a Big Biz Obama.

>>>In November he voted against a bill that would have reformed the Mining Law of 1872

Um, I believe Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D-NV) did also.

>>> Your response to my comment only confirm my point. People are thoroughly confused, or rather, equivocated about on which side Obama stands.

I am neither confused nor have I equivocated. I think my first conclusion in the prevoius post quite clearly stated on my position in regards to Obamamama’s socialistic ideology.

What you have failed to do is show precise evidence to the contrary. Your citing a vote here, a vote there, a speech yonder, is a tactic with which I could just as well show Ted Kennedy to be a bible-thumping NeoCon and Newt Gingrich to be card-carrying Marxist.

Such contentions would be absurd, wouldn’t you agree?

But have at it. I certainly wish you success in your endeavor. For while I think you fear Oba-wan for the entirely wrong reasons, and while we are obviously on opposite sides of the Isle, we at least agree that he is a threat to all Americans.

It took me a while to get back. I hope you get to read this.

Well, i think that the amount of legislation that can be presented to make a case against The One and Only is too much. How many examples would be fine by you? You close your eyes to my point and insist in seeing a communist where a puppet for the free traders exist.

Yes, he befriends the commies,but the commies are useless to him to get to the WH. No, the One will not turn around an become a Fidel Castro. How can you possible believe that the Wall Street moguls supporting him are stupid, that they are buying The Anointed One’s propaganda? DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT WALL STREET GREW A HEART BECAUSE OF OBAMA’S “CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN”, OR HIS “HOPE” MANTRA?

Do you think they share your fears about the One turning into a communist in the WH? THEY DON’T. They know him. He has helped them already, they tested him in the Democratic Leadership Council or what ever its name is.

With regard to Mr. Reid, well, he is not running for president. So that is not a relevant argument against my point.

Yes, we both dislike The One for differing reasons. But the end result if he gets to be president is the same: he will hurt Americans, the working Americans, whether from right or left wing. He is prohibiting Germans from bringing banners to his “show”, a good sign of his inclinations to curtail freedom of speech. That’s why he supports FISA.

I’m not a communist nor a right winger. I’m just worried that this false prophe represents the beginning of “1984″ in 2009. ALL Americans will suffer if he wins. Get ready for civil war in the USA.

>>> It took me a while to get back. I hope you get to read this.

I hear ya. Working 14-17 hour days during summer means I get an occasional weekend day or a quick peek during the week.

>>How many examples would be fine by you?

It’s not a number. It’s the reason.

My point being, one can not simply look at the title of the bill and the vote and declare ipso facto the position. As I showed above the votes you took to be Pro Big Biz really weren’t, but being perfectly in line with his life-long leftiness.

>>You close your eyes to my point…

Actually, I see your point clearly. I just also see beyond it, too.

>>>but the commies are useless to him to get to the WH.

Sorry, but I must disagree here, as well. The socialists - labor unions, pro-immigration groups, g’vment workers, race-baitors, welfare advocates, Daily Ko(ok)s’, etc. - are the core of his voting base. THEY got him past Hillary.

(Note: Others will disagree, but communists and socialist a close enough in ideology and action to be considered one in the same. That argument is for another place/time)

>>>How can you possible believe that the Wall Street moguls supporting him are stupid, that they are buying The Anointed One’s propaganda?

Wall street? Not sure that I have heard of any in Financials that have endorsed Oba-wan. Please list a few. (..and if you try to cite Krugman, I will strike you with a rotten banana peel)

>>>With regard to Mr. Reid, well, he is not running for president. So that is not a relevant argument against my point.

It is quite relevant to the point of showing that if Uber-Lib Mr. Reid votes (A) and Obama votes (A), the indication is that Obama is not some closet NeoCon Oilman Bank CEO.

That is not to say that he won’t go for the money, but he’ll hit up the big Leftist moguls; Soros, Mark Cuban, The Kennedy’s, Meathead, etc.

Which makes for a last point: There’s enough Big Money on the left for Obawan to drown in.

He doesn’t need Wall Sreet.

He’s got Oprah.

>>>Get ready for civil war in the USA.

Well, now your just being melodramatic.

Hi,
I will get you the facts by 7pm today. It takes a while to write them down.

But let me tell you in advance: I will hit you with something stronger than a banana peel - a lemon peel.

You continue to amaze me. You haven’t taken a look at His Majesty’s donor list. I will provide you a few later. (I have the list, just need to unearth it from the mess on my desk.)

With regards to His cadre of little people supporting him: you forgot to mention the rapidly increasing number of ‘little’ conservatives drinking the Osama Kool-Aid. What do you think of that! His hypnotic powers stretch all the way to the right.

With regards to Soros et al: you are sooo misinformed. One of the reasons you are missing the real hOsannah is because you are (politically)color blind. You can only see red or whatever color right wingers are supposed to be, you can’t distinguish tones or shades of colors. You think that ALL liberals are commies or socialists. THEY AREN’T. There are billionaires with a bit of conscience, but not enough conscience to make them want to engage in ‘redistribution of wealth’. You wouldn’t consider Bill Gates a commie, and yet he is supposed to be a liberal.

And finally, yes, it is difficult to read through senate bills; but the info is there. This pols make bills with bombs inside, intentionally. That’s how we end up approving or consenting laws that, when looked carefully, have provisions that really bomb on us. That’s in the human nature, lying.

I’ll catch you later.

Alright, lets see:
-big business bankrolling His Highness
+ security and investment industries
$8,473,279
+ lawyers/lobbyists
19,045,203
+ commercial banks
1,752,957
+ computers/internet industries
3,334,058
+ Hedge funds
1,337,510
+ movie industries
4,379,851
+ communications and electronics inds
11,229,970
He is the top recipient from the above mentioned sectors, not even the Mac gets more.

as of today: Goldman Sachs: $474,428 to His Highness; $104,950 to the Mac.

Top donors to the “hopefund” (funny that ‘hope’ needs funds)in order of money given:
Goldman Sachs, UBS AG, Lehman Brothers, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanly and Credit Suisse; for a total (as of Feb 1,2008) of $2,872,128. You can at least double that amount to today.
The “news” tells us that The Prophet has made the Mac bite the dust when it comes to campaign collections. if you believe that it is from the little people, you are sooo naive. Who needs the little people when Wall street is lining up to buy a piece of the pie, ergo, his renouncing public funding for his presidential campaign.
And you can bet your house on this: big business is not funding ‘hope’, they expect pay back in the form of legislation that benefits them.

Voting record of a “liberal”:
His voting record shows that he supports the war. He voted twice in 2006 against bringing America’s troops back home. His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any troop withdrawal, which if not suspended, still keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come. The suspension is written right into Section 4 (b). The bill tells Bush to bring the troops home some day unless he doesn’t want to.” from creativeyouth.net.
4/21/05: Obama voted for HR 1268, war appropriations in the amount of approximately $81 billion. Much of this funding went to Blackwater USA and Halliburton and disappeared. Roll call 109.
-opposition to the introduction of single-payer national health insurance;while he received $708,000 from medical and insurance interests between 2001 and 2006.
-Obama voted to bring low-cost foreign labor into New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.”Obama also voted to place Michael Cheftoff, the man responsible for the Katrina catastrophe, in charge of Homeland Security. Obama voted for the bills that gave Blackwater the funding they needed to shoot the people of New Orleans who were only trying to save their own lives.”
-Obama voted more than five times for USA-PATRIOT’s renewal.
-5/10/05: Obama voted to give the Secretary of Homeland Security the power to waive all laws (inclusive of murder, kidnapping and rape and all other heinous crimes) with no judicial review and no relief, and essentially to eliminate the ability of refugees to seek political asylum in the United States. This bill was was a combination of two bills (HR1268/HR418), both of which were harmful to life and freedom. HR 1268 was an appropriations bill which gave profits to contractors who benefited from wars. HR 418 presumed to override Articles I, II and III of the U.S. Constitution. This bill allowed Chertoff legally to commit any crime he wanted to commit in New Orleans, and elsewhere, with one result being the Katrina disaster. It also set up the basis for a Nazi-style national ID Card, similar to the ones issued by Hitler’s Regime. Obama voted for all this in Roll Call 117.

-2/10/05: Obama voted for an act known by liberals as The Class Action Extreme UnFairness Act of 2005 (S 5) that makes it much more difficult, if not impossible, for victims to seek and obtain damages in class action suits filed against wrongdoers who have harmed multiple victims. Roll call 9. This legislation involved five years of pressure from 100 corporations, 475 lobbyist, millions corporate dollars coming from The Civil Justice Reform Group, a business alliance comprising counsels from Fortune 100 firms, who actually drafted the bill; and the active participation of Wall Street firms now funding His Highness.
-6/23/05: Obama voted for cloture on HR 6, considered by environmental groups to be a sellout of the environment to the nuclear, coal and automotive industries. It provides for rewards for unsafe, pollution-ridden fuel sources and car makers who wanted to continue making inefficient cars. It also gave Bush the power to destroy the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge. Roll call 152
-7/01/05: Obama voted for HR 2419, termed “The Nuclear Bill” by environmental and peace groups. It provided billions for nuclear weapons activities, including nuclear bunker buster bombs. It contains full funding for Yucca Mountain, a threat to food and water in California, Nevada, Arizona and states across America. Roll call 172
7/20/05: Obama voted to punish countries opposed to the death penalty. Under Roll Call 196, funds and assistance would no longer be made available to any country which refused to extradite individuals to the United States because of a moral objection to the use, by the United States, of the death penalty. The United States is essentially alone among Western nations in its use of the death penalty. S. Amdt 1271 to HR 3057.
7/29/05: Obama voted for the conference report on the Energy Bill (HR 6), which was a boon to Halliburton and subjected Americans to the risk of exposure to lethal levels of radiation and mercury poisoning. Roll call 213

Look at all the “No Vote” from his Highness: he is missing in action, claiming that the campaign is taking too much time. In that way he can’t be accussed of voting against the people: a ‘no vote’ is like a ‘yes’ vote to those bills that attack our economy and civil rights.

I’m tired of trying to convince you that the man is going to end up being a Hitler. i don’t care how separated you and I are in terms of political ideology, we both are going to end up having to salute the false prophet with our arms extended or end up in jail for refusing to kneel in front of his image.

Yeap, it does sound melodramatic, but that’s exactly what Germans said about those sounding the alarm about Hitler. We weren’t believed when we shouted that the WMD was a lie to justify invading Iraq. Now we are in this mess.

Keep ignoring our warnings about Sir Obama. I bet you, in the middle 2009 you will start to see the signs of “1984″ in full regalia. Republicans, Democrats, Independents, all will be measured with the same Obamatron stick.

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

most of these numbers here from the Center for Responsible Politics.

Why parse the terms? Communism-Socialism-Marxism-Fascism-Nazism are all destination points on the left of the continuim. They all promote the ‘central planning’ and ’social engineering’ power of the State polit bureau. Their tennents are based in State control of all aspects of society including education, economics, health, trade, etc. They only differ slightly be how much control and how fast they intend to implement that control. Barak Hussein Obama is a statist. He believes in the power & principle of a small, mostly appointed, group of central government officials using their power to create a society that represents their idealogical conceptual view. Regardless of the name you call it, the intention is to use the force of government to control certain segments of the population applying penalties to some and rewards to others in effort to design a preferred social structure.

Obama’s mentors are Chomsky, Ayeres, Alinsky, Wright, Farrakhan, et al. These people all despise America, capitalism, the republic as a form of governance, and in some cases the ‘white race’. Unfortunately American History has not been taught in the schools since the 1960’s but if it were, you would understand that an international socialist/communist consortium has sought to destroy the West since 1917. Intially it was thought that the ‘thrill’ of revolution could be transplanted to the US after WWI. The country waqs more interested in forgetting the horrors of war; hence the ‘roaring 20’s’. The Great Depression was the next opportunity and communists made great strides to influence American politics. But the economic fervor of WWII short circuited the effort and patriotism for the US grew. During WWII, this movement was elated at FDR’s love affair with Stahlin. The used this time to place many passive & active communists into the government. (As it turns out, Joe Mccarthy was right as proven by the release of KGB documents in 1991). The subsequent ‘cold war’ made communism once again replusive so a new plan had to be developed. Never again could communism & socialism be construed as positve. A new lexicon was developed to describe this a progressive, liberal, free-thinking. A new strategy was to seek a haven of influence in academia where ‘new ideas’ were better tolerated and opportunities to train the future teachers of America existed. Simultaneously and effort was launched to obtain positins within the media, starting with the ‘arts’ in Hollywood movies and into the Unions. Influencing the educational process and the primary means of communication gave rise to a slow acceptance of these ‘new & bold principles’ without having to painfully point out that those tennents have failed everywhere. There were some problems in the 50’s however. Some of these new thinkers had a different ’sexual orientation’ and society was very resitant to this. Actual instructions were given to many to enter the Catholic Church priesthood where a man would not be questioned for remaining unmarried. Forty years later we see the result of that infiltration.(Remember the baby boom….everyone getting married and having kids….very difficult time for those not wishing to participate in America’s recovery). Starting to see the pattern here? Education, Media, Law, Politics, Judiciary as means to restructure a society. They have not controlled the last three, yet. But Obama will help them get there too. Why is it that our most liberal voices come from universities,the teachers unions and Hollywood? And this movement is international in scope and beyond conventional borders. Just look a George Soros. A ‘citizen of the world’ focused almost exclusively on destroying the currency of Western Democracies. Why would he want to do that? Because he openly hates the captalist model that brought him his great wealth and has vowed to destroy it. BTW - he is the main money man behind Obama. Next edition - where did Obama come from? Wake Up.